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Rizkhanae
13th July 2005, 13:23
::pak f2::
London, July 13: In a sensational breakthrough into the investigation in the London bombings, the police said at least three of the bombers are believed to be British males of Pakistani origin who lived in West Yorkshire in Leeds.
Police said they believe four men including the three Pakistani origin persons who arrived at King's Cross last Thursday morning on a train from Leeds were behind the terrorist bomb attack that killed at least 52 people and injured 700 on three tube trains and one bus.
Detectives are still unsure about the identity of the fourth bomber
http://www.zeenews.com/znnew/index.html
snk123
13th July 2005, 13:39
ah wtf .. its all a game .. just like 9/11
Rizkhanae
13th July 2005, 13:42
For snk 123
But unfortunately, due to such act ,the nation gets defamed and the whole community suffers.
mixyguy6
13th July 2005, 13:53
whloe drama just to attack Pakistan..and our President ::verya:: is a fag as well
looser
14th July 2005, 01:03
thats sad man....btw wth is that paki flag doing in your post? :style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsdown.gif:
V.I.P.
14th July 2005, 02:27
<span style="color:blue">Nah janeh in suicide bomber keh ghar walon pher kya beeteh hoon ghee is waqt.
Have these ppl have wasted at least one thought about their own family members?
*Allah unkah is mushkil waqt meh unkah saat deh*</span>
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@Rizkhanae: Do you want to express that you are feeling proud that THIS time pakis were suicide bombers.. that's why the flag?
If that is your aim, I would like to know.. if you would have used it.. if your (Allah nah kareh) own relative had to pay with his/her life.
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majidrabbani
14th July 2005, 02:57
aaH
I feel so uplifted and proud to b a Pakistani and a Muslim.
Shame on me
I guess , now we should wave our flag and call upon Jihad against
every living being and humanity itself. It seems the only way to
prosper and find peace ( for ourselves, not for the people)
Who the h*** are we people ? Btw, by definition,we dont fit in the category of humans even not animals.
o yeah...... what species r we??
majidrabbani
14th July 2005, 03:29
[quote=Muskaan]<span style="color:blue">
Rizkhanae: Do you want to express that you are feeling proud that THIS time pakis were suicide bombers.. that's why the flag?
If that is your aim, I would like to know.. if you would have used it.. if your (Allah nah kareh) own relative had to pay with his/her life.
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I brought this idealogy of ours into notice a couple of weeks ago.
Is this what we or our society inspires, applauds and idealizes?
If yes, then we are the real terrorists.... coz if u cant stop it, atleast
dont encourage it.
peace out!
bidztime
14th July 2005, 03:45
This is really sad that bombers have attacked innocent people in buses and in trains. Those of you who think that British police is lieing and this is just to attack Pakistan are still living in a dream world. You guys need to talk to someone who lives in UK and knows the culture very well. There are so many people there who talk against the west and want to make UK a moslim country and so on... These young guys are so easily tapped by these experienced riligious recruiters and they can easily brainwash them. What I dont understand is how their families let their young sons goto Pakistan and study "riligious" education there. I mean you live in England dont they want to goto school in england and cant they get education about Islam in local school rather then sending them to madrassas in Pakistan???? I dont accept that. Those of you who dont live in pakistan cant really get this but the fact is everyone here wants to get out of Pakistan for better lives and these *****s are coming to Pakistan and then stupid stuff and what will going to happen is now UK is going to start getting more stricter in giving vissas and that will effect average Pakistanis. What is the fault of most of us???? Now we will have to pay the price for these spoiled *****s who happen to be of Pakistani origin and came to Pakistan to study riligion. I think Pakistan government should banned all these people from US and UK who are coming here to study riligion. They have better resources to understand riligion there rather then learning from mulla in NWFP... I am totally upset at this because we all know what is going to happen next. We are already being blamed for so many mishaps and there is another one. Every single Al Qaida guy or taleban fighter is being caught in Pakistan and this is not just a coincidence. We do have places where young kids learn all the crap and go out and attack others. Look at the sectarian attacks in Pakistan. Every other day in Karachi one group is killing another groups people.
majidrabbani
14th July 2005, 04:04
u ryt @ bidztime to some extent.
but shouldnt the Gov anihiliate the real culprits in pakistan instead of
banning the foreign students? coz these poor young muslims come here
for the sake of islam and it is the organization(s) that brainwashes them
and lure them into acts of such disgrace.
Asad_paki
14th July 2005, 04:08
totally bullshit i dont believe on this crap that bombers were from pakistan
i swear to god if bush will try to attack on pakistan i will just do suicide attack on him. Pakistan is my home country and i love it.
majidrabbani
14th July 2005, 04:13
@ asad_paki
welcome to the real world
grow up **** ......... lol
Asad_paki
14th July 2005, 04:14
what do u mean please explain.
majidrabbani
14th July 2005, 04:25
come on ........
u know that they were brit of paki origin....its proved dear
and regarding bush attacking pakistan, this is not how the politics is
played in the real world.
we have to accept that we muslims r the most illetrate, stupidest
and ill tempered people on this planet.
voilence has become a part of our lives. the thing is that v r not
ready to accept this fact and maybe we never will.
and please never ever write about killing someone in a suicide bomb
attack. dont even think about it.
ciao.
bidztime
14th July 2005, 04:32
Originally posted by majidrabbani
u ryt @ bidztime to some extent.
but shouldnt the Gov anihiliate the real culprits in pakistan instead of
banning the foreign students? coz these poor young muslims come here
for the sake of islam and it is the organization(s) that brainwashes them
and lure them into acts of such disgrace.
I totally agree with you that government should stopped the real culprits but do you know how difficult it is for them to catch someone and punish someone especially when they are attached with religion. It is just our culture that anything associated with religion we dont question them. It is true many mullas or instructors are child molestors but we overlook all that just because they are working for Islam. I think it is the responsibility of parents and families to look into these matters. I can understand that here in Pakistan many poor families send their children their as it is hard for them to raise as these religious schools provide everything from food to living. But what is the point of someone who is born and raise in England or US have the best life and even if he wants to study religion he should goto a proper university in Pakistan or in anyother moslim country rather then going to these madrassas??? I live here and i know what is the condition of these madrassas and what exactly are being taught here. If they are so great then all the Pakistanis would be sending their children to these schools but we all know what is going on....
shoaib_khan
14th July 2005, 04:45
don't believe the kuffars ...they are liars ...surely its the same thing like 9/11
majidrabbani
14th July 2005, 04:48
ofcourse there r well established islamic institutions all over the world, but
havent u thought that what drives these poor students to go to Pak?
Apparently, there r agents of these organizations in UK, USA etc. some
part of the brainwashing is done by them . when felt fit for promotion, they
r persuaded , convinced or sent to Pak for the final training (kill themselves
and murder others)
these young boyz dont make their decisions themselves ryt from the
start.
Sukha_JaTT
14th July 2005, 05:13
yo i heard that these gora people in UK, is goin crazy, and they burned one masq and one gurdwara, yo dis is messed up, y these gora people have to burn down these religious buildings, yo it is same thing like 9/11. wen 9/11 took place, the gora people went crazy in U.S.A, and they killed inicent sikh people here...aight...1
Shaani
14th July 2005, 05:27
Read this too...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050713/wl_uk...HNlYwMlJVRPUCUl (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050713/wl_uk_afp/britainattacks_050713233940;_ylt=AsHHwRmFCSrW1PLqM tFdlS29Q5gv;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl)
majidrabbani
14th July 2005, 05:41
This is our plight .......aur hamarey kaarnamey dekho
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050714/wl_uk...m4yBHNlYwNmYw-- (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050714/wl_uk_afp/britainattackspakistan_050714005408;_ylt=AjpNZW8es 7MQCDjCeD5tcyXjOrgF;_ylu=X3oDMTA2ZGZwam4yBHNlYwNmY w--)
Munir
14th July 2005, 05:48
Originally posted by majidrabbani
come on ........
u know that they were brit of paki origin....its proved dear
and regarding bush attacking pakistan, this is not how the politics is
played in the real world.
we have to accept that we muslims r the most illetrate, stupidest
and ill tempered people on this planet.
voilence has become a part of our lives. the thing is that v r not
ready to accept this fact and maybe we never will.
and please never ever write about killing someone in a suicide bomb
attack. dont even think about it.
ciao.
too rude abt Muslims u r man.... u blaming all the muslims for these attacks...These are a bunch of fanatics who have been brain washed by their leaders...... the are disarrayed and u cannot say that violence has become part of our life.....
Asad_paki
14th July 2005, 05:57
majidrabbani i dont think that u r muslim and pakistani. please stop talking trash now and listen. Islam is da only religion who teachs the lesson of peace, treaty and brotherhood to all mankind and only 2% of people doing bad things it doesnt mean that whole muslim umma is terrorsit or whatever. u cant judge who ummat by 2%of people. if u cant understand u can keep talking trash. but if u understand this ill really appreciate.
majidrabbani
14th July 2005, 06:05
I was talking about this rage expressed by Asad_paki.
Originally posted by Asad_paki
totally bullshit i dont believe on this crap that bombers were from pakistan
i swear to god if bush will try to attack on pakistan i will just do suicide attack on him. Pakistan is my home country and i love it.
U know what .... out of 25 conflicts in this world, muslims are engaged in
23. Ok leave aside the muslims, lets talk about Pakis.
Arent we the most ill tempered of the nations?? here i m not talking about
the minority, its our majority that gets angry in a matter of seconds whether
its religion, girls, politics or even ego. We all know that street fights is just
a normal routine for us.
Now u tell me.... if a nation so full of rage and anger is subjected to brainwashing , what would be the outcome???
i mean we r the best puppets for the masterminds. they dont have
to do much to excite us. Coz we are qualified illiterates ( parhey likhey
Jahil). We dont think of the aftermath.I m talking majority bro.
I hope u get my point.
majidrabbani
14th July 2005, 06:22
@ asad paki
what do u mean by talking trash?? haan!
If i am a muslim or not ?? ok i 'll tell u how muslim i am
if i ask u people not to get angry , not encourage suicide bombings and
save innocent people, it means that i m a non muslim???
Have i said anything against islam??
killing innocent people is islaaam? whether its children in iraq
or Uk.
U tell me , how could islam prosper thorugh bombings? will non muslims
convert with this kind of behaviour?
I was talking about the bombings and people responsible for it but u have religion into it now.
u r talking about islam as peaceful religion and at the same time bombing
bush.... its not the islam its ur attitude.
now dont say that these ppl r mujahideens. what kind of jihad is this
that u kill innocent ppl??
i understand ur getting angry on grow up thing , but u made me say it.
we all are adults and should listen everything , analyze, interpolate and
then reply.
the whole world knows that they were paki brits.... but u started slashiing at bush and his attack on pakistan... what is this ?
do u think it is logical? face the truth and think about the future of our
country and Islam. how to tackle the situation and how to preach the
peaceful teachings if our religion. become a good role model . back lashing is not the solution .
got it??
Asad_paki
14th July 2005, 06:28
now ur saying that majority of conflicts came from islam . wat the hell do u mean ****. if its true then u know super powers making pressure to muslims countries to do the wrong decosions. ok leave it and tell me what conflict came from islamic nation??. and u r saying majority of pakis are involved in voileting. its totally wrong. if u think u r right then i apologize but think about it man.
Shaani
14th July 2005, 06:36
Originally posted by Asad_paki
totally bullshit i dont believe on this crap that bombers were from pakistan
i swear to god if bush will try to attack on pakistan i will just do suicide attack on him. Pakistan is my home country and i love it.Do you even know what you are talking about ****?
and that is the stupidest example that u spoke off.. Grow up..
what is the difference between u and the suicide bombers? If any i can't see the dividing line.
majidrabbani
14th July 2005, 06:39
leave it
its the conflict of our ideologies. it cant be compromised.
My belief is that if we can fight for our country n religion by establishing
ourselves, and that we can do like the way japan stood back to its feet
after hiroshima n nagasaki bombings. they didnt call upon jihad or any other
war but instead realized the fact that they were totally destroyed and could
only stand upto the world powers by establishing themselves. so they did.
now u can see it for urself that japan is a small country but has enough
socio-economic power to sustain itself.
simple as that. we have to reform ourselves.
remember ...these super powers u r talkiing about , werent always
super powers. they built themselves first.
Shaani
14th July 2005, 06:41
Originally posted by majidrabbani
leave it
its the conflict of our ideologies. it cant be compromised.
My belief is that if we can fight for our country n religion by establishing
ourselves, and that we can do like the way japan stood back to its feet
after hiroshima n nagasaki bombings. they didnt call upon jihad or any other
war but instead realized the fact that they were totally destroyed and could
only stand upto the world powers by establishing themselves. so they did.
now u can see it for urself that japan is a small country but has enough
socio-economic power to sustain itself.
simple as that. we have to reform ourselves.
remember ...these super powers u r talkiing about , werent always
super powers. they built themselves first.I agree with ur posts on this thread.. its just the fact.. that its hard to digest a bitter reality.. because of which many people are offended and are trying to defend something which is wrong and in their words against Islam itself..They are not protecting their country nor religion but defaming it and inviting more problems... in other words we are responsible for our own problems...because we tend to believe that we are perfect and the whole world is wrong.. if we take that perception out of our mind and correct our mistakes...i am sure we will be way better than what we are..
majidrabbani
14th July 2005, 06:46
@shaani
this is wat i am tryin to explain him for the last hour.
If anyone has the feeling that i m talking against
pakistan .... please mind that i m expressing my revolt n dissapointment
for wat i didnt expected of
Asad_paki
14th July 2005, 06:46
and we know how did they make their powers. they attacked small countreis and possesed on them , they possesed on mid east and stealing their oil, they attack muslims countries on childish excuse. japan is only one country but muslims arent one country thy r just one nation. if muslims r getting beaten by russians in bosnia who shud take care of them, if muslim r getting murdered by indians in kashmir who wud help them ? just think abt it man. we dont have power to fight so what can we do? jihad is da only oppurtunity we hav , do u even know wat the jihad is, if someone is killing on muslim country then jihad is farz on all of muslims.
i will appreciate if u can understand this.
majidrabbani
14th July 2005, 06:58
at least i m satisfied n content that i m doing my part of job.
there r only 2 pakistanis here in my city including me.
i m workin in nokia as a senior design engineer. and i have
impressed all the finns here in all aspects of life.
simply by being myself. i have set examples of being a good leader,
worker, friend,sportsman and as a caring and sensible person. i havent even had an argument here in 5 years.
in other words, i have set example of all pakistanis and a muslim. but
now when i go out, everyone asks about the bombings, jihad and terrorism.
but still i m doing my best not to tarnish the image of my country n
religion.
Its getting harder day by day but we have to tackle it calmly as i am
trying to do.
Shaani
14th July 2005, 07:14
Originally posted by Asad_paki
and we know how did they make their powers. they attacked small countreis and possesed on them , they possesed on mid east and stealing their oil, they attack muslims countries on childish excuse. japan is only one country but muslims arent one country thy r just one nation. if muslims r getting beaten by russians in bosnia who shud take care of them, if muslim r getting murdered by indians in kashmir who wud help them ? just think abt it man. we dont have power to fight so what can we do? jihad is da only oppurtunity we hav , do u even know wat the jihad is, if someone is killing on muslim country then jihad is farz on all of muslims.
i will appreciate if u can understand this.so you are using all these tactics as defense in the name of Islam? are you sure you know your facts right? EK Haath se taali nahin bajti
Asad_paki
14th July 2005, 07:17
ok man u guys cant understand me
sorry
monday99
14th July 2005, 09:21
Very sad and tragic to hear the killing of innocent lives. To make matter worse, they were from Pakistan origin. We muslim should live a good and honest life. We should lead by lives by good positives example.
The most damage is gonna be suffered by the muslims in the long run. There will be more hatred against muslim.
Islam the religion of peace and love is getting a bad name and image around with world because of few bad eggs out there.
ElectricdreamS_old
14th July 2005, 09:36
Originally posted by monday99
To make matter worse, they were from Pakistan origin.
salamzzz
i dont think so bro, how are you so sure? have you spoken to one of the bombers? i dont believe any of the british media claims, i dont think they have any clue yet as to who did it, they are just following the foot steps of americans to quickly point at muslims, just to shut the public up who want an answer!
monday99
14th July 2005, 09:39
I hope and I pray that it turns not to be muslims because muslims are already suffering and strugglying enough. They dont need another bad image like this.
paki_pari
14th July 2005, 09:41
i dont want the bombers to be paki origion
that ****s maaan!!
well thats what i have heard so farr and its ****s
i duno why ppl do it in da first place..its sickening!
i hope they r no pakiiiii :style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/weep.gif:
Asad_paki
14th July 2005, 09:43
same here paki_pari
i dont want either them to be muslim but i think media will show them as mulim and everyone will believe it with close eyes and no one will try to find out the truth.
Shaani
14th July 2005, 10:00
Originally posted by Asad_paki
ok man u guys cant understand me
sorryWhy are you saying Sorry bro?
it was just a matter of discussion and we all were speaking our minds..and when u don't like someones comment u critic it? so dont say sorry if we dont understand u can try and explain it to us. But sorry if u thought any of my comments were offending.
Fazi
14th July 2005, 10:39
nice discussion
i read the links and other news also but still I am not able to understand that how did they find out these guys ?
clue ? poofs ??????
spyda786
14th July 2005, 10:39
jst to give us a bad name man...i really hate diz.....i hope it getz better..inshallah
Shaani
14th July 2005, 10:41
Fazi i think one of the suiciders Mom called up.. and apparently they matched his picture with the one on the surveillance camera video too. and than their scientific stuff maybe the one who had the bomb on him his body must have blown up more or something like that.. not sure but technology..but i heard his mom's ca;; helped them..
Fazi
14th July 2005, 10:53
Originally posted by Shaani
Fazi i think one of the suiciders Mom called up.. and apparently they matched his picture with the one on the surveillance camera video too. and than their scientific stuff maybe the one who had the bomb on him his body must have blown up more or something like that.. not sure but technology..but i heard his mom's ca;; helped them..
mmm thanks but still i dont understand coz if they are telling these people did it they should put all the information that how did they find out but i havent found in any news that how did they find out them
bugs_bunny
14th July 2005, 11:27
interesting.... I dun get it.... they planned it so much.... every thing seems to be at their place...... just to have the end of moms calling up
This is ridiculous man
Just a way to defame more & more
if they had put the bombs with them then the attackers can certainly do some tricks with camera 2.... a terrorist attack like this is to be well planned... I am sorry but I don agree..... they are calling hi mastermind..... yet the reviel the mystery quiet fast... less than a week.... quiet amazing.... I dun get it simply I dun
& we all know how good their media is to distort the facts.... even after couple of hours they were talking about alqaeda involvement & was talking about some website in which..... somebody gave them threat a year ago.... interesting isnt it..
in the end I dun know about the facts.... so I better have to shut up..... cant point @t anyone.....
bugs_bunny
14th July 2005, 11:32
I would like to add more.... this is one of the worst incidents to.... n if it does involve paki hands behind this..... then I would be ashamed
their is no point hurting innocent people like that.... I know what they did in Iraq, Afghanistan..... but the thing is this was the result of the stubborness... the great leaders.... who hide himself..... made duplicate of themselves huh?
just to make the innocent people suffer..... if only Saddam would have consider coming in view.... n appealing to UN & the Islamic World at the same time.... things might have been different..... certainly for the people of Iraq... a bitter fact but our leaders feed people to violence to protect themselves... where as the leaders here don do this
I guess I hmm am going away from topic.... but in the end.... this was not a good thing..... Islam dun teach us in this way..... n its true
shoaib_khan
14th July 2005, 15:37
Please read the article "s|ck mindedness of the double terrorists" in the thread "Official website for muslims mujahideen" then we would know something about usa and uk for sure..InshAllah
bidztime
14th July 2005, 22:01
[quote="majidrabbani"]leave it
its the conflict of our ideologies. it cant be compromised.
My belief is that if we can fight for our country n religion by establishing
ourselves, and that we can do like the way japan stood back to its feet
after hiroshima n nagasaki bombings. they didnt call upon jihad or any other
war but instead realized the fact that they were totally destroyed and could
only stand upto the world powers by establishing themselves. so they did.
now u can see it for urself that japan is a small country but has enough
socio-economic power to sustain itself.
simple as that. we have to reform ourselves.
remember ...these super powers u r talkiing about , werent always
super powers. they built themselves first.[/quote
Majid I totally agree with you and there are some nut cases here who are living in the dream world. You can try and explain them as much as you can but they will never understand as they dont realize what is going on in the world. I think there is a need of radical changes in our households both in pakistan and moslims living overseas. I think this bombing is not something which can be planned in few days or weeks but it is work of those masterminds who have blend in our roots and lives for years. I do think that conflicts going on around the world do add fuel to this anxiety that moslims are being oppressed around the world. Now it depends on how we look at these issues and what are our responsibilities as an individuals. Apparantly, these young men were exposed to so much that for them it became the last resort is to give their lives and kill innocent people. They didnt even think for a second that what their actions will bring for their families and community. Here i bring your point when you said that how aggressive and angry we are as a nation, we cant resist anything or we have no patience in us. I hope that lives and dignity of all the moslim families be safe in UK and around the world but these 4 young men have absolutely did so much damage which will take lot of time to repair.
Shaani
15th July 2005, 01:01
[quote=majidrabbani]leave it
its the conflict of our ideologies. it cant be compromised.
My belief is that if we can fight for our country n religion by establishing
ourselves, and that we can do like the way japan stood back to its feet
after hiroshima n nagasaki bombings. they didnt call upon jihad or any other
war but instead realized the fact that they were totally destroyed and could
only stand upto the world powers by establishing themselves. so they did.
now u can see it for urself that japan is a small country but has enough
socio-economic power to sustain itself.
simple as that. we have to reform ourselves.
remember ...these super powers u r talkiing about , werent always
super powers. they built themselves first.[/quote
Majid I totally agree with you and there are some nut cases here who are living in the dream world. You can try and explain them as much as you can but they will never understand as they dont realize what is going on in the world. I think there is a need of radical changes in our households both in pakistan and moslims living overseas. I think this bombing is not something which can be planned in few days or weeks but it is work of those masterminds who have blend in our roots and lives for years. I do think that conflicts going on around the world do add fuel to this anxiety that moslims are being oppressed around the world. Now it depends on how we look at these issues and what are our responsibilities as an individuals. Apparantly, these young men were exposed to so much that for them it became the last resort is to give their lives and kill innocent people. They didnt even think for a second that what their actions will bring for their families and community. Here i bring your point when you said that how aggressive and angry we are as a nation, we cant resist anything or we have no patience in us. I hope that lives and dignity of all the moslim families be safe in UK and around the world but these 4 young men have absolutely did so much damage which will take lot of time to repair.
Very well said.. after all future depends on us and the younger generation.. and its the way we react to the situation..
Asad_paki
15th July 2005, 01:06
well shani just prove and clrearify that those ppl were origin from pakistan and most of the terrorism comes from muslims.
Dr_Eggman
15th July 2005, 08:15
People don't seem to understand but they said "of Pakistani origin", however they could have been born or at least are/were now British citizens. So, more likely than attacking Pakistan, they'll crack down and watch the Muslims in the United States and the United Kingdom with suspicion.
kashmiri
15th July 2005, 11:51
i hate the term paki descent
aall goray hate it when u say u r a paki living in britain (especially most of them, not the BNP or NF) they say u were born here, you are 'British' and now the media comes out and says 'Pakistani origin' etc...
double standards, god i hate media....
kashmiri
15th July 2005, 11:54
Originally posted by shoaib_khan
Please read the article "s|ck mindedness of the double terrorists" in the thread "Official website for muslims mujahideen" then we would know something about usa and uk for sure..InshAllah
bro u r reading one extreme
and reading another extreme in the media
my point is extrmeism is BAD and doesnt work
most muslims are fate centric...
well hey the next day the train collision in pakistan, for the fate-centric...SEE IT AS A PUNISHMENT FROM GOD
Fazi
15th July 2005, 12:36
Originally posted by kashmiri
aall goray hate it when u say u r a paki living in britain (especially most of them, not the BNP or NF) they say u were born here, you are 'British' and now the media comes out and says 'Pakistani origin' etc...
double standards, god i hate media....
Well said about the the last lines that now they say "pakistani origin"
but well still I havent seen any proof which tells us that really those people were invovled in this
KHAWAR
16th July 2005, 04:46
Originally posted by kashmiri+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(kashmiri)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-shoaib_khan
Please read the article "s|ck mindedness of the double terrorists" in the thread "Official website for muslims mujahideen" then we would know something about usa and uk for sure..InshAllah
bro u r reading one extreme
and reading another extreme in the media
my point is extrmeism is BAD and doesnt work
most muslims are fate centric...
well hey the next day the train collision in pakistan, for the fate-centric...SEE IT AS A PUNISHMENT FROM GOD[/b][/quote]
Agree :style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif:
kashmiri
16th July 2005, 15:56
Thanks with agreeing bruv's!
Glad to hear ppl agree with me.....
Dr_Eggman
17th July 2005, 08:46
Well, this isn't related directly to the issue but just wanted to say that no one is alone when it comes to predujice (racism, sexism, etc.)
For example, Japanese came to this country are various times in the late 19th century and early 20th century. Here in Texas, the early Japanese came in during the first decade of the 20th century.
Now, there sons and daughters, being born in the United States were American citizens (though their parents had to apply for citizenship, the children were naturally born American nonetheless).
However, as we know from history, as soon as World War II began (well for the United States anyway, over 2 years it had started in Europe), Germans, Italians, and Japanese, even if only by blood and not by birth were looked down upon (the Japanese more so than the Germans and Italians).
However, despite this predujice and being put into internment camps (since they were taken out of their homes and one of the bigger camps was in Crystal City, Texas) some of the generation of Japanese-descent born in the United States (again American citizens) did join the United States Army and fought along with their white and black comrades.
The most famous regiment was the all Japanese-American volunteer 442nd Regimental Combat Team.
Altogether the 442nd Regimental Combat Team was awarded:
1 Medal of Honor (awarded posthumously to PFC Sadao S. Munemori, Company A, 100th Battalion, for for action near Seravezza, Italy, on April 5, 1945)
52 Distinguished Service Crosses (20 of which were upgraded to Medals of Honor in June 2000)
1 Distinguished Service Medal
560 Silver Stars (plus 28 Oak Leaf Clusters for a second award)
22 Legion of Merit Medals
15 Soldier's Medals
4,000 Bronze Stars (plus 1,200 Oak Leaf Clusters)
9,486 Purple Hearts
The unit's exemplary service and many decorations did not change attitudes of the general U.S. population to people of Japanese descent after World War II. Veterans were welcomed home by signs that read "No Japs Allowed" and "No Japs Wanted", and many veterans were denied service in shops and restaurants, and had their homes and property vandalized.
These views did not change until during the 1960s and 1970s.
Hussain_HP
21st July 2005, 12:46
ahh who didint expected that news to come by ... alwayss pullin pk in wel anyways thanx for sharing
kazim185
22nd July 2005, 00:26
ppl....wake up, for god's sake!!! to say that this is a conspriacy agaiinst muslims iis crap, wake up n face the reality. our religion is suffering bcuz of these bloody extremists, and something needs to be done abt it!!
mervik
22nd July 2005, 21:46
i dnt know why r we being blamed, they were borned and raised in england. blame the british nt us. we didn't do anything. i dnt know why pakistan is always blamed ::verya::
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