Donation or Fee ?????

[itsumair]

i think HUMPAKISTANI.ORG should advertise a little, i mean for other websites, and get paid via that, a little bit more effective way than DONATING, Donations are usually for Charities, for hunger, AIDS, CANCER, poverty etc. etc, i appreciate the effort, but instead of donation they can just start a Membership, and set up a FEES, i don;t like the terminology Donation, as donation is by choice, not by force, for being Becoming a Diamond Member ''HumPakistani.org" should ask for membership fee instead of a Donation...

This is just a humble suggestion, hopefully it would be taken positively,
But i have to admit, the work done by Babar is just great, and i think from all the Pakistanis, I highly APPRECIATE it and thank you from all of us pakis who are spread all over the world.

::pak:: Zindabad ::pak f2::

[itsumair]

Originally posted by Fazi+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Fazi)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-itsumair
i think HUMPAKISTANI.ORG should advertise a little, i mean for other websites, and get paid via that, a little bit more effective way than DONATING, Donations are usually for Charities, for hunger, AIDS, CANCER, poverty etc. etc, i appreciate the effort, but instead of donation they can just start a Membership, and set up a FEES, i don;t like the terminology Donation, as donation is by choice, not by force, for being Becoming a Diamond Member ''HumPakistani.org" should ask for membership fee instead of a Donation...

This is just a humble suggestion, hopefully it would be taken positively,
But i have to admit, the work done by Babar is just great, and i think from all the Pakistanis, I highly APPRECIATE it and thank you from all of us pakis who are spread all over the world.

::pak:: Zindabad ::pak f2::

well if you accept that Badar is great and he is doing great work then what makes you think that this donation thing is bad .. and as you know also that nobody is forced and there is not a big donation even you have two ways posts good posts and there is a range told if you post that many posts you will be a DM or you can donate to the website and this is good for the site also .. these guys Badar and Hassan i dont think so that they are stupid that they have to spend money from their pockets and entertain you guys .. if someone is giving donations that person is getting something good also ..it is not just for nothing ... if you dont like that donation idea that you have to post .. if everything is free then out site will be just a place where people come register and just download and our forums will be empty ... and we cant get more big and better server also to give you more and more videos to enjoy ...

dont want to say more i think this is enough ..

this is the rule .. make donation .. or post .. and there is no other way ...

posts are good for forums and donation is good for the site ..

and after your post i feel you dont want both things for the site[/b][/quote]



Why do you have anger in your response, you didnt get what i said at all, i am not against his asking money for the great work he has done, he deserves it, obviously no body does anything for free in this world, MY POINT is it should be called a FEE instead of a DONATION, when i work for my company i dont get DONATION, i get PAID, there is a difference, i am not at all against 5 dollars a month, and the 200 post requirement he has put, its just the terminology i was suggesting... SUGGESTING is a key word, as not once did i say he's wrong, or donating is BAD THING, let me give you a key example on Donation, When you give DONATIONS to a mosque, do they guarantee you a RESERVED place in the Masjid, or do you get treated the same, the point is DONATIOAN is personal, and is for good cause, it is ENTIRELY different than a Membership Fee, once again im not agaisnt the fee, but what i couldnt get from your reply was when did i say im against people posting or donating, i don't know what you are smoking, but do understand the concept of the message plz and then respond...

[BaDaR]

well i like his idea about videos and setup membership fee so then we can even bring more stuff but wat other guys like don't know
by the way desi people will never help on things like we did they can spend lots of money every week on rubbish things and like going to cinema every week or resturent etc but will never give single cent to sites where they got lots of stuff these are in nature of desi peoples ::verya::

[itsumair]

Originally posted by Badar
well i like his idea about videos and setup membership fee so then we can even bring more stuff but wat other guys like don't know
by the way desi people will never help on things like we did they can spend lots of money every week on rubbish things and like going to cinema every week or resturent etc but will never give single cent to sites where they got lots of stuff these are in nature of desi peoples ::verya::

Badar how do i PM you, or contact you via MSN????

[zohairz]

lol...i think its a nice idea...and badar is soo generous to show us the videos that he alredy does even if we arent diamond members....thanx alot

[Brutus]

Fazi, that's not what he meant. He is saying that $5.00 that you are asking for diamond membership shouldn't be called a "donation". It should be called a membership fee instead. Because the word "donation" doesn't look nice. Donation is something you give as a charity to poor. It just doesn't sound nice, so call it a membership fee, which you have every right to ask and it is perfectly fine.

[zohairz]

btw badar shouldnt u have started diamond membership with 100 posts or 2.5 dollars for fee in order for diamond membership and as the site carried on u could have increased number of posts

[Fazi]

Originally posted by itsumair+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(itsumair)</div><div class='quotemain'>Originally posted by Fazi@
<!--QuoteBegin-itsumair
i think HUMPAKISTANI.ORG should advertise a little, i mean for other websites, and get paid via that, a little bit more effective way than DONATING, Donations are usually for Charities, for hunger, AIDS, CANCER, poverty etc. etc, i appreciate the effort, but instead of donation they can just start a Membership, and set up a FEES, i don;t like the terminology Donation, as donation is by choice, not by force, for being Becoming a Diamond Member ''HumPakistani.org" should ask for membership fee instead of a Donation...

This is just a humble suggestion, hopefully it would be taken positively,
But i have to admit, the work done by Babar is just great, and i think from all the Pakistanis, I highly APPRECIATE it and thank you from all of us pakis who are spread all over the world.

::pak:: Zindabad ::pak f2::

well if you accept that Badar is great and he is doing great work then what makes you think that this donation thing is bad .. and as you know also that nobody is forced and there is not a big donation even you have two ways posts good posts and there is a range told if you post that many posts you will be a DM or you can donate to the website and this is good for the site also .. these guys Badar and Hassan i dont think so that they are stupid that they have to spend money from their pockets and entertain you guys .. if someone is giving donations that person is getting something good also ..it is not just for nothing ... if you dont like that donation idea that you have to post .. if everything is free then out site will be just a place where people come register and just download and our forums will be empty ... and we cant get more big and better server also to give you more and more videos to enjoy ...

dont want to say more i think this is enough ..

this is the rule .. make donation .. or post .. and there is no other way ...

posts are good for forums and donation is good for the site ..

and after your post i feel you dont want both things for the site



Why do you have anger in your response, you didnt get what i said at all, i am not against his asking money for the great work he has done, he deserves it, obviously no body does anything for free in this world, MY POINT is it should be called a FEE instead of a DONATION, when i work for my company i dont get DONATION, i get PAID, there is a difference, i am not at all against 5 dollars a month, and the 200 post requirement he has put, its just the terminology i was suggesting... SUGGESTING is a key word, as not once did i say he's wrong, or donating is BAD THING, let me give you a key example on Donation, When you give DONATIONS to a mosque, do they guarantee you a RESERVED place in the Masjid, or do you get treated the same, the point is DONATIOAN is personal, and is for good cause, it is ENTIRELY different than a Membership Fee, once again im not agaisnt the fee, but what i couldnt get from your reply was when did i say im against people posting or donating, i don't know what you are smoking, but do understand the concept of the message plz and then respond...[/b][/quote]

from your post i feel that you are trying to teach me the meaning of donation that this is for aids this n that .. ..and second yes you get paid when you work for the company .. and company pay you e very month coz you work for them .. and they ask you to work just there is nothing more .. and here we say donation we are not asking everybody to donate and there is other way to get DM also after posting and there you are not going to lose anything just you have to post useful posts .. now if you did not like my reply you are saying that why i have anger in this .. i am not angry just you did not like my reply and you felt i am angry .. you are right that i missed the point that you are not against it i am sorry i just now reread ur post .. but we are not forcing anybody to donate this is optional .. there are two days .. this is not first site where we are using this term or work donation ..

[itsumair]

Thanks Brutus, Exactly, HUMPAKISTANI.ORG has every rite to ask a membeshp fee... Donation kinda looks wierd, thast all...

Hope it was taken as a suggestion... thanks. ::th::

[Fazi]

If there is membership fees thing .. then i think we dont have to add that thing that if someone will post that many posts he or she will get also DM then we have to finish this thing coz we have already one thing membership fees .. here our site will be as a business .. that pay and get memebership ..
and if we still keep that posting things i think this will be silly ...

what we have now that post 200 posts or donate if you dont want to post ..like this many users are not posting also and many are giving donation also
and donation is the right thing users who think that they can donate they donate to use and who cant donate they dont give donation and in this way we are gettin many users everyday but if we will change it with memebership fees that this site will change like a site where have to get memebersthip first and we will lose our many users also who keep that forums alive ..

still anybody can give suggestion

[spyda786]

y we got to FIGHT man.......diz SITE iz gREAT!!!! all da crikcet stuff.....datz jst awesome.....and i wud like to rEQUEST!!!! how bouh we reduce da post frm 200 to 100 to be a diamond member....cuz 200 iz kidna too much.......ITZ JST A REQUEST.......

[KHAWAR]

I M THANKFULL TO HUMPAKISTNI.ORG. GUYS THEY R SHOWING US GREAT STUFF FOR FREE. mashAllah

[Sabeeh]

yarr donation nahi tho fee samaj kay deh do(whoever can afford) so humpakistan can get better and better

[Bala]

Originally posted by Badar
by the way desi people will never help on things like we did they can spend lots of money every week on rubbish things and like going to cinema every week or resturent etc but will never give single cent to sites where they got lots of stuff these are in nature of desi peoples ::verya::
Before describing desi people in such a manner, do bear in mind that you are also one of the Desi. Such statements can only be made by someone who seems obsessed with Americans & Europeans - in other words 'White Chamri'. You tend to think what the whites do becomes a fashion and what desi's do is rubbish. If you get a chance to know Americans or europeans, you will come to know how miser they are. All I can say is that its a shame that the admin has made such statements !!!

[BaDaR]

i know batter about all and i traveled to 50+ countries and still think that desi are way behind from this world in wasteing money and care and respect
and yes i'm desi and i'm not talking about shit Americans or europeans
i'm from uk and been to 3 defferent college in last 6 years and saw every desi doing all that wat i mention and selling and smokeing drugs and i don't want to say more just Watah Geroge ka Pakistan episode 8 where all mirpuris show that who they are as desi
don't want to say more hope u understand

[Phantom]

how to I pay for diamond membership!!!

[Sunny420]

Badar I tottaly agree with u, i aslo think that desi are way behind from this world in wasteing money and care and repect, and ur also right that desi will spend lots of money every week on rubbish things and like going to cinema every week or resturent etc but will never give single cent to sites. I guess bela needs to read is again and also understand what u meant....

[BaDaR]

Phantom check this like for donate

How to Donate (http://www.humpakistani.org/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=312&sid=54fe60ec095aa450f99282c54378a4aa)

[KHAWAR]

BADAR BHAAAIIIIIII COOOL DOWN.

[itsumair]

Originally posted by Bala+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bala)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Badar
by the way desi people will never help on things like we did they can spend lots of money every week on rubbish things and like going to cinema every week or resturent etc but will never give single cent to sites where they got lots of stuff these are in nature of desi peoples ::verya::
Before describing desi people in such a manner, do bear in mind that you are also one of the Desi. Such statements can only be made by someone who seems obsessed with Americans & Europeans - in other words 'White Chamri'. You tend to think what the whites do becomes a fashion and what desi's do is rubbish. If you get a chance to know Americans or europeans, you will come to know how miser they are. All I can say is that its a shame that the admin has made such statements !!![/b][/quote]

**** do you even know, what you are talking abt, im in America, and belive me i TOTALLY AGREE with Badar, desis are pathetic in organising everything, from concerts to anything you name it, i know i shouldn't be generalising, but thats what u get wen you see majority of Illeterate desis messing everyting up... what white do isn't a fashion, pick anything they do, Im not talking abt white trash, or Ingnorant blacks, im talking abt educated ppl, I haven't seen more honest and organised ppl anywhere else, and im from LAHORE, although after 9/11 things are not that great, but its still is better than a lot of countries... i luv pakistan, but at the same time we should have the courage to dislike all the wrong doing of Pakis... and appreciate what they do good.

[KHAWAR]

GUYS CAN WE PLS CHANGE THE TOPIC. WE ALL KNOW IT IS ONE THE BEST SITES OF PAKISTAN, EITHER WE DONATE OR PAY IT (WHO CAN AFFORD) IT DOESNT MATTER. :style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yes.gif:

[BaDaR]

Originally posted by KHAWAR
BADAR BHAAAIIIIIII COOOL DOWN.

Yar i'm cool down and i didn't say that all desi but mejority Allah ki kasam muj ko ajjkal sharam ah rahai as a pakistani u knwo why
did u guys heard about internet cafe scandal or do u know in Pak which kind of websites being viewd daily do u know wat guys & girls doing in street of Pak in these days i'm shamed just as telling these to others

[Sunny420]

Originally posted by Badar
Yar i'm cool down and i didn't say that all desi but mejority Allah ki kasam muj ko ajjkal sharam ah rahai as a pakistani u knwo why
did u guys heard about internet cafe scandal or do u know in Pak which kind of websites being viewd daily do u know wat guys & girls doing in street of Pak in these days i'm shamed just as telling these to others

oh yeh man, pakistan is becomming bad country, i mean they should do something about it. and the sites are totaly pathetic.......i mean people have families in pakistan.......some one should stop these thing.....

[BaDaR]

well in saudi arabia & Iran they have installed a special SW on country maain server and all Internet users in these 2 countries can't open any adult site which is good thing
but in PAK all ISP say no to that softwere because by intsalling that SW there business will go down and do u all know WHO OWNS PAK BIGGEST ISP ITS SON OF QAZI HUSSIAN AHMED ::verya::

[Sunny420]

Originally posted by Badar
well in saudi arabia & Iran they have installed a special SW on country maain server and all Internet users in these 2 countries can't open any aduld site which is good thing
but in PAK all ISP say no to that softwere because by intsalling that SW there business will go down and do u all know WHO OWNS PAK BIGGEST ISP ITS SON OF QAZI HUSSIAN AHMED ::verya::

Well that good that saudi arabia & Iran did that.....but i am surprized at pakistan, why the hell can't they do it?..... coutry is going in wron direction.....soemone has to take action........why the hell are pak carrying about business? they should look at people.... this is totally sick and those people who said that the business will go down are sick as well.

[Brutus]

Badar you are a nice guy, but you got it really wrong buddy, when you say that somehow Pakistanis are worse off than the western society. I know, Pakistani people abroad, in US, Canada, England etc do things which are sometimes shameful and embarrassing. But those people, most of the time, are upstarts. You know, they weren't very well off in Pakistan and all of sudden, now they have money and don't know what to do with it. Ignorance + money is a highly combustible mixture. But with all their short comings they can't reach the depths of moral decadence that this society has reached.

You talk of internet cafe scandal in Pakistan. Can you compare it with the recent sexual slavery scandal of Belgium, where 13-14 old girls were being abducted to satiate the desires of some of the very influential people including the royal family of belgium. Can you compare what goes on in Pakistan to what goes in the back alleys of London, NY or LA? Where you cannot even pass through without getting attacked or raped even in the day, let alone the night. According to a recent study every fifth woman in US has been abused, either sexually or physically, at some point in her life. Here incest has reached alarming proportions. When was the last time you heard of a Pakistani mother getting worried that the father was "rubbing the daughter the wrong way".

Ever heard of Snuff Films. No! It is not an adult film, it is way beyond that. In these films people are chopped to death and the person who pays between 1 - 3 million dollars can witness the murder. It has become a multi million dollar industry. You think "white trash" will have the resources to pay such an amount? Don't believe me, watch "6 mm".
This is one sick society. Pakistani society with all its embarrassing moments, clumsiness, flaws is still better than the west. And this is not an overstatement.

[Fazi]

Originally posted by Brutus
Badar you are a nice guy, but you got it really wrong buddy, when you say that somehow Pakistanis are worse off than the western society. I know, Pakistani people abroad, in US, Canada, England etc do things which are sometimes shameful and embarrassing. But those people, most of the time, are upstarts. You know, they weren't very well off in Pakistan and all of sudden, now they have money and don't know what to do with it. Ignorance + money is a highly combustible mixture. But with all their short comings they can't reach the depths of moral decadence that this society has reached.

You talk of internet cafe scandal in Pakistan. Can you compare it with the recent sexual slavery scandal of Belgium, where 13-14 old girls were being abducted to satiate the desires of some of the very influential people including the royal family of belgium. Can you compare what goes on in Pakistan to what goes in the back alleys of London, NY or LA? Where you cannot even pass through without getting attacked or raped even in the day, let alone the night. According to a recent study every fifth woman in US has been abused, either sexually or physically, at some point in her life. Here incest has reached alarming proportions. When was the last time you heard of a Pakistani mother getting worried that the father was "rubbing the daughter the wrong way".

Ever heard of Snuff Films. No! It is not an adult film, it is way beyond that. In these films people are chopped to death and the person who pays between 1 - 3 million dollars can witness the murder. It has become a multi million dollar industry. You think "white trash" will have the resources to pay such an amount? Don't believe me, watch "6 mm".
This is one sick society. Pakistani society with all its embarrassing moments, clumsiness, flaws is still better than the west. And this is not an overstatement.

pappu yaar .. i like your post

good man

[Brutus]

Thanks "Former Administrator". You are a calming influence.

[Vicky19]

Originally posted by Badar
well in saudi arabia & Iran they have installed a special SW on country maain server and all Internet users in these 2 countries can't open any adult site which is good thing
but in PAK all ISP say no to that softwere because by intsalling that SW there business will go down and do u all know WHO OWNS PAK BIGGEST ISP ITS SON OF QAZI HUSSIAN AHMED ::verya::

i am shocked badar..

[AnnY]

i have a question....

can we just donate money through mails.. Not net e mail.. the mail real mail... lol..

i mean is it possible ?

[Xcuseme]

Hey :style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/salam.gif: Badal bahi i wants o donate u $ 10 from Poland . so i dont know how i can do that? can u give me ur Bank account # so i transfer $ to ur account. so if i donate u $ 10 can i be a diamond account ? and please send me ur account # in my email. this is my Email Xcuseme04@yahoo.com
or Love.Virus04@gmail.com and ya there is a period between love and virus ok cya hope u send me mail soon buh bye allah hafiz ::pak f2::

[Fazi]

Originally posted by danishlike2004
Hey :style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/salam.gif: Badal bahi i wants o donate u $ 10 from Poland . so i dont know how i can do that? can u give me ur Bank account # so i transfer $ to ur account. so if i donate u $ 10 can i be a diamond account ? and please send me ur account # in my email. this is my Email Xcuseme04@yahoo.com
or Love.Virus04@gmail.com and ya there is a period between love and virus ok cya hope u send me mail soon buh bye allah hafiz ::pak f2::

hi Hassan will reply you

by the way i am your neighbour
i am in Ukraine


and plz next time if you want to post about donation or DM then post in other topic this was to discuss


and Anny you will also get a reply
right now i dont know about donation things i dont deal with this only Badar and Hassan deal with this so they will let you know that what you can do

[Xcuseme]

Hey Fazi , this is Kool that u r from Ukraine . ::th:: thats koolieo and when the other guy gonna reply me ??

[akbarshazam]

If guys have a streaming quality for live cricket matches and show a lot of them then, I am interested in paying. First of all there many sites that show matches for free especially Pakistan's games so, if you are going to make the diamond members pay 5 per month it better be worth it. For instance willow tv streams at 1200kbps. Now there will be months when the site owner will save a lot of money on bandwidth because Pakistan won't be playing so monthly $5 that too is a concern. Anyways if you can thoroughly explain this diamond membership thing i would really appreaciate it because I am willing to pay for a good quality cricket streams and also if you guys show lot of matches. Thanks.

[Faahid]

I agree with Badar Bhai and he deserves some credit for making this website whether you call it donation or fees. He is still offering you videos to see.

[Fazi]

Originally posted by akbarshazam
If guys have a streaming quality for live cricket matches and show a lot of them then, I am interested in paying. First of all there many sites that show matches for free especially Pakistan's games so, if you are going to make the diamond members pay 5 per month it better be worth it. For instance willow tv streams at 1200kbps. Now there will be months when the site owner will save a lot of money on bandwidth because Pakistan won't be playing so monthly $5 that too is a concern. Anyways if you can thoroughly explain this diamond membership thing i would really appreaciate it because I am willing to pay for a good quality cricket streams and also if you guys show lot of matches. Thanks.

hi you need to check this link

Click Here ! (http://www.humpakistani.org/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=312&sid=d1dda628455baeae4d8ecc98a2d03de3)

and second that this site is not just about cricket here you will not just get cricket highlights you are gonna get alot of more stuff .. pakistani serials .. shows ... documentries .. video clips etc ... well name the thing and we will get that for you .. i mean that if you give donation and get DM then it doesnt mean that you are just getting cricket .. you getting hell alot of more fun also ...

and plz check the link

Thanks for your comments

[apac]

comon guyz who cares we r all pakiz ... doesnt matter if we r desi or not